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Contents

1 deleting contributions! 2 German translation 3 Cardinal-Infante 4 Pic of the Day 5 Music markup 6 Deletion 7 Requesting Account Deletions 8 Re: 3RR on United Kingdom 9 Gdansk & User pages 10 VfD 11 3RR and 172 12 Gdansk 13 Vaoverland's Adminship 14 Mi Último Adiós 15 Western Federation of Miners and Triangle Shirtwaist fire 16 United Kingdom 17 Talk:Gdansk/Vote 18 Reponsiveness Test 19 Calcutta -> Kolkata name change 20 Thanks 21 User:Vaoverland - administrator 22 Nice one 23 Re: Adminship 24 Ceyockey test transclusion 25 Image:IndiaBowlingCricket.jpg 26 User:Martin2000 27 Can you help me? 28 Orphan Works 29 Ooops 30 Solana 31 Thank you. 32 Weird 33 No problem (accidental block) 34 kallipolis 35 Thanks mate 36 Thank you 37 Guanaco and adminship 38 Thank you 39 Need help with Japanese 40 A Question 41 Zürich to Zurich 42 ...I need help 43 Blackberries fir0002 semi FPC 44 Suikinkutsu

deleting contributions!

Hi, this page, "Actually" is my attempt to add a footnote or end note to my contribution to someone else's article. Ok, I see now the style you are presenting is unsigned contributions and those won't be likely noticed for deletion I guess either. My footnote in this page attributes the information about the precise location of Trier to the Encyclopaedia Brittanica. If this page had no such information, that is strange. Or someone else erased it. Also, if this page is floating in space, that is because the refering insertion into someone else's article was itself deleted, but not by me (maybe it was deleted by an over-zealous (because over-paid and proud) computer science hacker who couldn't nevertheless pass the math it takes to get a B.A. in the subject). Ok, not to get off the point, I will sign this now: --T. Mc. 03:30, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I am not just making nonsense or disruptive contributions! I don't see how University at Buffalo meets the requirement of no promotional pages. It is presented as a promo page would be. Actually, I don't mind that contribution is deleted, but simultaneously all my contributions are deleted or marked for swift deletion.

Why are not new users allowed to contribute to extant articles useful information such as the fact that Trier had a Roman governor long after 476?" It seems that in the context of who ruled Trier in the history section, i.e. Gauls, Romans, Attila, Franks, Lorraine, there would merit some detailed discussion of what the real historical importance of Trier was. One, that it was a Roman Regional Capital. Two, that, perhaps as such, it survived the fall of Rome given in our childhood history books for perhaps twenty-five years or more as an example of an on-going continuing Roman Empire Civilization. (See also wikipedia, "Soissons" and "Aegidius" and "Syagrius." It is interesting that the article before my now removed edit (and during and after) contained a photograph of the throne room of the Emperor Constantine, thus illustrating the importance of this provincial seat. And so, my contribution was not so wild and out of place as you angrily suggested on my talk page! Even if EVENTUALLY deleted, I don't think in the context of how wikipedia publicly presents itself, it merits the negative comments you placed upon it.

As far as not meeting your standards, this is kind of ridiculous! How can you have a wikipedia that advertizes itself for Newbies AND allows them to directly contribute AND expect them ever to read it again after being deleted. I am assuming hundreds of thousands of people are reading Wikipedia by now and not a few of them trying unsuccessfully to contribute after you edit them!--T. Mc. 03:04, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

German translation

I would appreciate it if sb would translate german article on Cardinal-Infante Ferdinand into English wiki article, and there is more german relevant material on the article talk page. Same goes for Infanta Isabella Clara Eugenia of Spain. Is there a place on Wiki to ask for translations? I couldn't find it yet... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Much tnx for the translations :) If you need anything from Polish, let me know. If you feel like looking into one more bio, there is also Talk:Maria_Anna_of_Austria. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 10:51, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cardinal-Infante

No problem. BTW, did the bit about the Cardinal-Infant being so-called because he was a child when he was made cardinal come from the German? Because that's just outrageously wrong. john k 03:50, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, Infante means "Child," but if you're talking about "the Infante" or "the Infanta", that means a prince or princess. The usage is similar to France, where a son of the king wasn't called a prince of France, but a "fils de France" (son of France), and a grandson of the king a "grand-fils de France." Is this term not used in German? john k 03:57, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I was just wondering of the use of the term "Infant" and "Infanta" for Spanish princes and princesses generally. It's pretty usual in English, while, for instance, "Fils de France" is not normally used. One would never talk about how Charles I of England married "the Fille," (Henrietta Maria, Henry IV's daughter) while one does talk about how he courted "the Infanta" (Philip III's daughter Margarita, I believe, who ultimately married Ferdinand III). john k 04:04, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Pic of the Day

Hi Chris,

Sorry for the short notice, but just to let you know that your photo Image:Edo period Wakizashi.jpg is up for Pic of the Day tomorrow. You can check and improve the caption at Wikipedia:Picture of the day/February 24, 2005. A little more detail on the decorative lacquer work might be a good idea, and are those pearls on the hilt? -- Solipsist 08:15, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Music markup

Hi chris, sorry for spamming your page like this (if you consider this one, I mean) I started a nice discussion on to bring music to our wiki, and it seems that everyone loved the Idea. But we're just humble users here and I would love if some nifty important admins like you could hop there to give some advice to why this could or could not be implemented. thanks. --Alexandre Van de Sande 21:34, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Deletion

Chris, you have very mistakenly speedy deleted a page of my own making, with my own copyright. If you want to be an administrator, then do your job thorougly!! ()

Which page? If you mean Crossmedia, we at wikipedia assume a copyvio if the text is copied from another webpage, unless there is evidence otherwise. That's why it is listed on the Copyvio page. -- Chris 73 Talk 03:25, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Requesting Account Deletions

Chris, I am formally requesting the deletion of two accounts I created on Wikipedia: User:Paradigmbuff and User:Puffydoogle. I don't have anything more to contribute to Wikipedia. Paradigmbuff 04:16, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Can't do that. -- Chris 73 Talk 04:46, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Re: 3RR on United Kingdom

Hello Chris, I'm Heimdal. I apologise for breaking the 3RR rule, and I'll respect your decision to block me. Actually though, it wasn't me, but Jiang who started the "edit war" in the first place, by reverting all the work I've done on the UK page since last week. He did the same on the Germany page, then asked AllyUnion to protect his version. But it cannot be (can it?) that it's up to Jiang to decide how long an article should be, how many words a section should have, how many subsections should be allowed, how many images the article should have, and how large or small the images should be. I do not even intend to talk with Jiang anymore, since I've got the impression that he only wants to force through his own view. - 129.143.4.65 14:04, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding. Again, this block is only a cool-off-period. About the conflict: You could add a Wikipedia:Requests for comment to see what other users think. If you get support, you may convince Jiang that your version is better. Same the other way round, if he gets more support, maybe you should rethink your position. Another option is to take a break from editing this page, and come back after a week or so. I find that most of my disputes look rather silly a week later. Anyway, good luck and happy editing -- Chris 73 Talk 08:08, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Gdansk & User pages

Hi Chris,

A few weeks ago, I apparently inadvertently 'edited' Roo72's user page by entering a discussion comment there by mistake (for which I have since apologized, and corrected it). It occurs to me that Wiki user pages ought to be set up so that only the user could edit his own page. Just a suggestion.

My hat is off to you for the naming conventions vote program. Danke vielmals.

Sca 19:58, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

VfD

• Why should it be discussed on VfD talk before it is listed ... your friends in the VfD process don't talk on the pages they propose for deletion. The VfD process should be applied to VfD, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. dml 02:48, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

3RR and 172

I just read the mess with user:172 on 3rr. Unfortunately it seems that while he was unblocked he relocked the global warming page under very suspiceous circumstances. I posted a note on 172's talk, but if he's really blocked then he cannot reply. Anyway, could you take a look at the page in question and my note on his talk and give us some help or advice here. There is definelyely something odd going on. Thanks, Vsmith 04:13, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Gdansk

Hmm...in terms of not counting votes, I'm not sure what the protocol is on this. I would say that probably Danzig wins 1466-1793 with or without new users, but it's incredibly close if we count all votes, and not terribly consensusy even if we don't. So that's the other question - how to deal with that issue. I would be satisfied with using Danzig in the main article, and using Gdansk or Danzig as appropriate in other articles (use Gdansk in History of Poland articles, for instance), but I'm not sure such a result is supported by consensus. What do you think? john k 04:06, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Vaoverland's Adminship

Thanks. I have been having a problem with my IP, and delays, occasionally causing duplicate sections. I appreciate both the headsup and your support. Vaoverland 07:42, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Mi Último Adiós

Has a Vfd , please vote to keep or move to wikisource. There should be a brief description about it and it 's significance. Best regards,--Jondel 05:11, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Added my 2c -- Chris 73 Talk 03:00, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)

Western Federation of Miners and Triangle Shirtwaist fire

Thanks! Thanks! Thanks! Can I leave other requests with you? Or should I go through channels? 24.126.41.116 08:41, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) aka User:Italo Svevo

United Kingdom

Please unprotect the United Kingdom page. I won't edit there anymore. -Heimdal 14:13, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Talk:Gdansk/Vote

Apologies for saying "sloppy". I've done enough stuff on Wikipedia to realise that we don't always get it right in the first cut.

I do have a problem with people expecting to be exempt from WP:3RR if they go edit warring over the spelling of a city name. I have expressed my concerns but, for obvious reasons, will now withdraw and watch quietly. If I think my concerns were valid in, say, a month's time, odds are that you will too. Most likely everybody will be happy enough and we'll all just forget there was ever a concern. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:49, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hey Chris - I am a bit worried that the vote on 1466-1793 won't be considered legitimate, given that the total vote (including dubious votes) was 48-47 for Gdansk. Is there anywhere we could seek an advisory opinion on this? john k 05:40, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

On what basis was my vote not counted? What does "any user of Wikipedia in good standing may vote" mean? How do you distinguish those? I would like to see some Wikipedia rule about it. --Akumiszcza 12:10, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• "There is no fixed rule, but users with a low edit counts are usually not included in votes. If you would be at wikipedia more often, you would know about this (and your vote would have been counted). Similar applies to other votes. Anonyous users definitely cannot vote, too. -- Chris 73 Talk 11:13, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)"
  • If there's no fixed rule, the voting is simply senseless. You can choose whatever reason for including a user or not in your votes, making the result you choose. This is not fair at all. In my opinion every user who can edit pages, can also vote. That's what democracy is about. People can vote no matter what education they received or what do they know about politics. So why here should be otherwise? Besides, what is important, basing the "good standing" of a wikipedia editor by the number of edits is just STUPID. User A makes many simple corrections (changing commas into semicolons for instance) or even destroys many articles. User B produced several big pages on important topics. User A can vote, B cannot. Stupid enough? --Akumiszcza 12:54, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • One more thing: "If you would be at wikipedia more often, you would know about this". I've been at wikipedia more often than you think. Ever heard about wikipedias in other languages? --Akumiszcza 13:13, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

...too late, have been away — but the outcome was reasonably good anyway! ;-)
Ruhrjung 23:59, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

Reponsiveness Test

Chris, waaaay back in June I created a series of flawed posts to test how quickly the wiki community responds. After I finished my research, life got in the way and I didn't return to my account until today, where I saw your comment on my talk page:

Are you associated with any newspaper or other publishing entity? According to your statement on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion, you created a number of pages only to test the responsiveness of Wikipedia. [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion&diff=3995900&oldid=3995888). I can accept this for valid research, but please don't do it just to satisfy your curiosity. Are we getting a report now how many pages were created, how long they stayed untouched, and when the faulty information was removed? -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:25, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Atlastawake"

For one, yes, it was for research for an article (I write for a small blog). Here's the link to the finished post: http://lawlegislationandlunacy.blogspot.com/2004/06/market-of-knowledge.html

The one that was voted for deletion was the only one that was not corrected--all other ones were changed within an hour of their posting (here's to the wisdom of the crowds). For more information, check out my article. (I also kept more careful records on my computer that contain the exact content of each article, if you're interested.)

I apologize for the delay...this explanation is long overdue.

Calcutta -> Kolkata name change

Hi there. I noticed you voted in the Wikipedia:Naming policy poll to keep the Wikipedia policy of naming an article with the most familiar English name. You may not be aware that another attempt has begun to rename the Calcutta article to Kolkata, which is blatantly not the most common name of the city, whether it's official or not. If you want to vote on the issue you can do so at Talk:Calcutta. Cheers. -- Necrothesp 13:27, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

It's always a pleasure to find someone on Wikipedia who doesn't take a disagreement personally. Thank you. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 12:15, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:Vaoverland - administrator

Thank you for supporting my appointment as an administrator. I appreciate the pat on the back this represents. It felt nice to read the comments during the voting. Please let me know if you see something I should be doing as admin, as I intend to be fairly passive unless it is clear I should do otherwise. Thanks. Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 20:06, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)

Nice one

Great job handling the onslaught of articles relating to Church of God International, in particular the redirects. Here's a flower. BanyanTree 05:12, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re: Adminship

Chris, I'm honored that you would have taken an interest in my work; thanks for your kind words. I would love to have a few extra tools to keep Wikipedia in top shape. Thank you for your offer; I gratefully accept. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:52, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating me. I appreciate you offering me this chance. Hope I can keep your success rate at 100%! — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:32, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's great to see that so many people think well of me. By the way, I don't know if it is intentional, but the first sentence of your user page has two 17's: "I discovered Wikipedia on 17 October 17th 2003, 11:26". Maybe you wanted to compromise between the different date styles, I don't know. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:50, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ceyockey test transclusion

yes, it can be deleted ... I'll put it up for deletion myself. Thanks for running across it; I'd forgotten I'd made it. Courtland 16:54, 2005 Mar 8 (UTC)

Image:IndiaBowlingCricket.jpg

Greetings. I have listed Image:IndiaBowlingCricket.jpg on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion because it has no source or licensing information, and it's not listed in any articles. If you would like this image to be kept, please add source and licensing information, and include it in an article. If you need any help with this, just ask me. Thanks! – Quadell ^{(talk) (sleuth)} 18:55, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

User:Martin2000

Thanks! Refdoc 10:25, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Chris, I have recently pointed out some copyright problems on User talk:Rsabbatini to this user. Unfortunately, he appears to have taken it quite personal, and thus I'm hesitant to point out his newest mistake to him. I don't want to drive him away—he's doing good work. But his labelling lots of things (both texts and images) from Brazil as PD disturbs me, for I can't find any verification for his claims. He labelled his latest image upload, Image:Cesar_Lattes.jpeg, as "public domain State University of Campinas", but according to the external web source at [1], it is copyrighted: © notice at the bottom, text to the left of the image says that the text following was taken from a 1987 issue of the Jornal da Unicamp, which makes me believe that the image also was scanned from that issue. The image is clearly {{fairuse}} (and should be slightly cropped to get rid of the blue stripes at the top and bottom), and in César Lattes, it should be framed and have a caption "César Lattes in 1987", but if I did this now, I think User:Rsabbatini will take offense. Could you do it, and maybe have a word with him on his "Brazilian government stuff is PD"? Lupo 12:47, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Lupo 07:51, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Orphan Works

Hiya Chris. I thought you might be interested in this site. An excerpt:

When you can't find copyright holders, copyright becomes a quagmire. Let's fix it. . . The Copyright Office has specifically asked for comments from people who have run up against the problem of trying to clear a potentially copyrighted work -- either for use in a new creative effort or simply to make the work available to the public once again. If you have a story like this, it's essential you make your voice heard.

Your comments are needed. – Quadell ^{(talk) (sleuth)} 15:22, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)

Ooops

Hi ya! No I didn't forget to log in, I was already logged in. Ocasionally when I create or edit pages as User:TomStar81 I will have a seperate, unlogged page to check information on. Why do you ask? TomStar81 03:38, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Ironically, I just asked Rossami about that. If you want to start the process, be my guest. There wouldn't be enough words in the English vocabulary to express my gratitude for it ^_^ TomStar81 03:49, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm "old enough to be technically copetent and young enough to need adult supervision", so its nice when people help and/or volenteer to correct my mistakes. I apreciate your help. Thanks again. TomStar81 03:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Solana

I strongly resent being up for 3RR's. I weas fixing malicious and deliberate vandalism from multiple user Cumbey, who had been using the site to provide evidences that Solana is ther Beast. She had also deliberately put in false information, accidentally put in false information, and put things in the wrong place. I tied the article up to look like a political article and not a series of evidences that Solana is the Devil, and she reverted all my work and removed the neutrality notice. I am already beginning the process of her taking her to arbitration to get her banned from the article. She had also removed a lot of valuable info without reference to the talk page, and vandalised my own user page yesterday. If you look at the evidence you will see this is not an edit wa, it is one user gone on the rampage, and the other cleaning up her vandalism. If I get blocked wiki asserts she has the right to put her POV thesis slagging off Solana and the EU, and including gross inaccuracies, in wikipedia. In which the spooks have already taken over. I am very angry at this accusation.--SqueakBox 16:25, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC) It would be nice to have an explanation as to why you want me blocked for reverting vandalism? especially when you do not know the case.--SqueakBox 16:50, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC) I am willing to apologize for what I did, if that wil,help. if I did wrong okay, i did not think I was. it was 4.45 in the morning, something here woke me, and I wanted to go back to bed. I have been told by another user I should have got help. Okay, but please don't support a ban? I am very stressed out with this. Best wishes,--SqueakBox 17:11, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

Having taken advixce I can see I was wrong to revert more than 3 times, so i will accept a temporary block gracefully. --SqueakBox 20:31, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)

User:Cumbey has now engaged in an identical edit war at [2]. Any help would be much appreciated. --SqueakBox 17:17, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

User:Cumbey has gone and vandalised a GFU agreement wikielite forced her to tag onto the article as it came from wikipedia. No-one there at the moment, but they will not be happy! She is being stupid on all the levels, i.e. both childish and she gets caught out. People think on the computer isn't real life, but it is. Wrote something about it at Talk:Javier Solana/Solana vandalism and POV#Is Cumbey using sockpuppets. --SqueakBox 01:22, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

User:Cumbey has made another personal attack against me at Talk:Javier Solana--SqueakBox 04:30, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you.

Hello, Chris 73. Thank you for cleaning up the vandalism on my talk page. Much appreciated. Take care. -- PFHLai 07:49, 2005 Mar 12 (UTC)

Weird

The anon that vandalized Adolf Hitler this morning. If you look at the history of his talk page, it says that I created it at 13:03 UTC, and that you subsequently placed test5 on it at 13:02 UTC (so, before me according to the server time, but after me according to the history and diffs). How can this be? Whatever, he's gone now. But I'm just puzzled. — mark ✎ 12:54, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

No problem (accidental block)

Hi Chris! No worries about your "slip of the finger" block. Errare humanum est. I'm glad you got the vandal—eventually... :-) --Plek 13:36, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why is the external link to nutritiondata.com acceptable but kallipolis.com/diet not?

kallipolis

Nope, just a user. It's a free service supported by adds like nutritiondata.com I just think its nice to see the data in the form that we are used to seing it here in the States. I suppose I "could" copy and paste into Wiki but I worry about copyright rules.

--140.192.110.110 04:00, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks mate

I appreciate your kind words. I'm sure I'll be around, but you probably won't see me... I'll most likely edit anonymously (and infrequently!) - Ta bu shi da yu 06:24, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks, Chris 73, for nominating me for adminship and for having faith in me. I was surprised by the turnout and I will work to see that the community's faith in me is not misplaced. Now I have a bit of reading to do to ensure that I properly understand these new powers of mine. Again, thank you. — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:18, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Guanaco and adminship

Hi. The recent wrangling about Guanano and adminship got me thinking - I think I would qualify as an admin and make a good admin. I am professionally a editor for a stockbroker so I think my skills cross over to WP. What do you think? --JuntungWu 14:06, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Chris, you may be interested in my recent comment on the the dear old Gdansk discussion page.

Sca 19:40, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Chris, just a note to say thank you for voting for me in my adminship nomination! I very much appreciate your support. Best, SlimVirgin 03:39, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Need help with Japanese

Hi Chris 73,

You recently created a page about saibashi (Japanese cooking chopsticks) and another about makiyakinabe (Japanese square omelet pans). I've been reading a book called The Japanese Kitchen, by Hiroko Shimbo. She calls these tools ryoribashi and tamagoyaki-ki, respectively. Which is correct?

In the interest of full disclosure: I don't know a word of Japanese, I'm just copying letters out of the book. :-)

DanielVonEhren 05:48, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The two kinds of chopsticks are similar. I don't know how to tell them apart. I am Chinese. We use long metal/bamboo chopsticks for deep frying. For the record, I don't speak Japanese either.

Ach! It's happened to me again: I go to a sushi bar and say itadakimasu, and the nice lady in the kimono gives me a blank look and then says "Sorry, I'm from Hong Kong".  :-) DanielVonEhren 18:15, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You may want to see this Japanese catalog: http://www.bannai-k.com/katarogu/cookware/cook-etc/cooketc04.html

• agibashi 揚げ箸

揚げ箸 (deep fry; あげ; agi) 箸

Catalog: P-5; 345 mm; wooden handle + stainless steel tip; ￥480

Catalog: P-6; 350 mm; rosewood handle + stainless steel tip; ￥880

• saibashi (菜箸)

菜 (dish; さい; sai) 箸 (chopstick; はし->ばし; hashi->bashi)

A pair of long chopsticks (used in cooking, or in serving food at the table)

Catalog: P-7; 330 mm; rosewood handle + stainless steel tip; ￥930

• ryoribashi (料理箸)

料理 (cooking; りょう‐り; ryory) 箸

Catalog: P-8; 340 mm; resin handle + stainless steel tip; ￥450 <- Possibly not heat resistant.

I really cannot tell them apart. If I were a cook, I'll buy the P-5 chopsticks and use it for my deep fry jobs. -- Toytoy 16:25, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

Here's another catalog: http://www2.edu.ipa.go.jp/gz/c1part/c1kigu/c1jhou/IPA-par370.htm

• makiyakinabe (巻き焼き鍋) The 5th item from top.

巻き ([egg] roll; まき; maki) 焼き (cooking; やき; yaki) 鍋 (pan or pot; なべ; nabe)

http://kitchen.b-smile.jp/consumer/goods/00006.html

• tamagoyaki-ki (玉子焼き器)

玉子焼き (omelette; たまご-やき; tamago-yaki) 器 (container or tool; き; ki)

卵焼き器 (玉子 = 卵 = tamago)

玉子焼鍋 (tamagoyaki-nabe; also usable)

Makiyakinabe and tamagoyaki-ki are the same. They are usually made of pure copper (not brass) because copper is a good heat conductor, moreover, a trace amount of copper forms a golden colored compound with protein. Not very good for your health, but it looks nice. French chefs also used copper bowls as their egg beaters. -- Toytoy 16:57, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

This looks like great information. Che fox has been helping me also. Thanks.

DanielVonEhren 18:15, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The makiyakinabe article may need to mention its wooden lid. -- Toytoy 18:41, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

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A Question

Just wondering, is there some sort of page that lists all the current naming convention issues, that I might not know about? Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 08:54, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Zürich to Zurich

Zürich has been nominated on Wikipedia:Requested moves for a page move to Zurich. Perhapse you might like to express your opinion about this proposed move on talk:Zürich. Philip Baird Shearer 10:19, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

...I need help

Aparently User-Name is not familar with the proscess of moving pages, and in my abscence has redirect the Magellan class battleship and the Salamis class cruiser (Gundam) pages to new pages by doing the old copy/paste. Is their any way to redo the pages and officially move them so that they reflect the full history? TomStar81 08:02, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks a bunch. Now all the people who worked on the articles can recieve credit for them. I apreciate it. TomStar81 21:54, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Blackberries fir0002 semi FPC

Hope you can come vote on this selection: [User:Fir0002/FPCandidates#Blackberries] Thanks--Fir0002 06:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Suikinkutsu

Your article Suikinkutsu has been translated to Japanese, and is linked from the main page. I had nothing to do with it, but thought you'd like to know. Fg2 05:46, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)